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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
Hello everyone,
Need advice on building a privacy barrier w/ dwarf fur or spruce (open to suggestions) I have at least 128 ft that i would like to build a nice barrier that will cover a 6' chainlink fence between properties. How do I estimate how much dirt to build a mound ? how high do I make the mound?and how do I estimate how many trees? I do not want a tree to grow full size like a 30 ft spruce, just high enough to give some protection (under 10ft), so i would assume a dwarf species?
This is not my strong suite (as you can tell) so any advice is appreciated. I'm located in NY (long Island) so the climate conditions are typical NE conditions.
Thanks in advance
Ducati996
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
Some good ideas !! Dennis gave me some dimensions based on 20 yrds worth of fill. I think 12 ft for me is too wide, I'm thinking 6 ft max. and I think 4 ft heigh would be the max. I want to go. I know have to think total lenght to cover is 128 ft. straight line. Alberta dawrf sounds close for sure, I'm not looking into a fast growing maintence freak of a tree !! it will be watered of course, and the soil content is the north non-sandy part of Long island(very good).The existing fence height is 6 ft vinyl chain link, to give some privacy between properites. I like my neighbors, just dont want to see them everyday in their yard. We have enough space 2 acres parcels
but line of sight on one side is open. This is a very common application, which I'm now ready to start thinking about doing ( Now that I have my JD4100 that is). I think I will spot the same layout on someones yard, and take a digital picture of what I want. Just dont know how to estimate the amount of dirt, or plants (with space for growing)....
You guys are very helpful indeed, I appreciate it fully !!
Ducati996
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
I'm probably not explaining clearly how I invision it.
Its common around here, where a row of Dwarf trees (evergreens, pine, fur or other)line up next to the fence line. The mulch/fill part will not be mowed, smaller berme than whats being described is used. An actual application
which I just got feedback on, was using Arborvities and/or white pines and the berme was no bigger than 30" high and 8 ft wide. Mulch was the covering w/ weed control cloth underneath...does this paint a clearer picture? This will be butted up next to the fence line, so no mower will be used between berme and fence line.
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
cutnfill,
You must be familiar with this area called Long Island. Bissett is close enough, and the largest nursery I would say on the island..your tips are very much welcomed!!
I'm glad the size I'm trying to descibe is a little clearer.
I know exactly what application Murf described, and I would apply that type if I'm building a barrier to filter out lets say road noise and its view. Too big for what I'm doing. How does one calculate the amount of fill need for 128' with an approx 2' height, 8' wide max berme...
I will go to Bissett this weekend...
Thanks again,
Ducati996
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
I have decided on Arborvites for this project around 5' tall would be a good affordable size. I calculated spacing from diameter of each tree being 2' apart. The reason for that is to give more immediate privacy, I dont think it would harm the trees being that close. I calculated for 128' I would need close to 60 trees. The actual size of the berme could now be approx under 2 ft high 4 or 5 ft wide max. The quote on 5' aborvites are $35 each- is that ok?
Most likely weed cloth and mulch will be the top cover.
I dont think I can get this done before winter (too many other things that take priority) but early spring is likely..
Any comments or things to look out for with this design?
Thanks in advance..
Ducati996
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
kwschumm,
The need for immediate privacy would win over. When I get around to doing it all, I would want something to give me some immediate results to my goal. The price difference wasnt that much between 2-3 and the 4-5. I dont have a wind problem under normal conditions of course 
I will keep you suggestions in mind when this comes together in the spring...
Thanks,
Ducati996
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
we have been lucky with the wind enemy (hurricanes especially) I do understand that they are prone to snow damage with a heavy snow fall. I wouldnt mind brushing them off when that happens, like I did with the other ornmentals
with last years big snow season...This will be a early spring project definately
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rgauthier,
You havent seen either white pines, dwarf spruce or Arborvites, or any other choice on a berme before? It adds to the effect, and makes mowing and weed control growth easier..its real popular around these parts, and besides being popular it looks real nice!!
Ducati996
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posted edited by Ducati996 to keep the peace
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
Actually Murf I'm finished on this thread because the advice
I received earlier in the post was great. I will follow it in the spring when I start this...there should be no need to waste bandwidth on this thread now on this topic IMO..
Ducati996
P.S I keep getting the emails to advise me someone posted on this post, how do you shut it off?
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
I have started to think about this project again even though
I have plenty of winter left to deal with...I realized I have a picture that shows the fence line I'm looking to put a natural barrier along. Its picture #16, and I got some great advice earlier. Maybe this picture will help in visualizing what I'm trying to do.
Ducati
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
This is a picture of what I was talking about originally
but in this picture it needed to be only 50 ft...
I lucked out in finding Arboritaes 6-7 ft for $40 each, delivered free..
See link below
Duc
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Need advice on building a privacy barrier w dwarf fur or spruce
Hi Yooperpete,
I'm very, very happy with my Cub 3204 and blower !!
the 782 is a very desirable machine and I think the engine is rubber mounted for smoothness? The 2 stage throws snow up to 70 ft (maybe more)..I like using it over my JD4100 w/FEL and Rear Blade for snow removal - considerably quicker
and cleaner. Of course on gravel the FEL and rear blade work better
Duc
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